Maxsell's got BATF approval for front venting!

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Maxsell's got BATF approval for front venting!

Post  Fight Designer on Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:31 pm

Looks like Maxsell finally got some front venting versions approved by the BATF for import, including a new (to the US- been out for years in Europe) machine pistol.

Might just have to try one of these out some time...
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IT'S ABOUT TIME !!!! But, now...

Post  LarsRobert on Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:14 pm

...I'm waiting for some front-venting, blank-firing replica SMGs. Maybe a MP5A3? Thompson 1928? An UZI that LOOKS like an REAL UZI would be cool, as well.

Seriously, this advent is really gonna be BAD for all of the good folks who rent live, blank firing sub-guns, machineguns, rifles, pistols, revolvers and shotguns professionally for the motion picture industry...which is already suffering because of this darned economic mess we all are in at the present time. A lot of productions are shot in Canada these days.

The many bona-fide studio gun rental facilities are already suffering lack of rentals (and income) because a LOT of production companies as of late are using CGI animation technology to "produce" muzzle flash from any firearm on screen. Now, I don't know about anyone else...but it sure does look silly when I see some bad guy "shooting" an AK or AR rifle on full-auto with NO action cycling, no empty brass ejecting and an endless supply of "ammo." Now we all have thrown ourselves back into our couch, smacked our palm to our foreheads and yelled "COME ON!" regarding the later as we watched actors in shoot-outs shoot for what seems like forever with ONE magazine...but cartoon muzzle flash? Geez Louise!

Now that these front-venting blank-firers are now legal and available to the general public here in the States, studio gun rental shops are gonna suffer even more. God bless 'em all...they're just trying to eat, pay the rent and keep the shop open, too. Not only bona-fide rental shops, but BLANK AMMO manufacturers are gonna suffer, as well. One of my friends who I've known since the late 80's who makes every caliber of blank ammunition that one can think of (may) start to really feel the pinch here soon. Fortunately for all mentioned above...they still are able to rent LIVE guns and sell blank ammo to gov't and overseas productions that require all types of live guns and blanks for movies or other types of productions. So, THAT is good.

All of us blank-gun "flunkies" have some NEW, updated toys that we can play with now, too. But who knows, these front-venters may be short-lived. You know people...all it takes is for some chromosome-missing idiots who will start using these to hold up banks, scare the general public or hurt someone and "POOF," they will all be outlawed...again. So, I guess some collectors (such as myself) would be wise to buy a few of these, leave them all NIB and sit on them. You never know, right? But all kidding aside, Heaven-forbid anyone gets hurt with these new front-venting blank firers. NO individual should ever fire a blank-firing replica directly at another individual...EVER...and (if) these are being used in a motion picture production, the industry rule is NEVER EVER fire at anyone that is closer then 20 feet!

I think that I've rambled on here for long enough. I hope that the introduction of these new front-venters turns out to be a GOOD thing for all interested or any other entity that needs or uses these replicas. I just hope and pray that everyone utilizes COMMON SENSE and everyone's CAREFULL, too. Yes, one could say that these are "toys." But be them toys or not, these can be DANGEROUS! So be carefull everyone and have fun, too.

...just my .02.

Kim in NW GA
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Re: Maxsell's got BATF approval for front venting!

Post  Fight Designer on Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:41 pm

All good advice, and worth more than two cents... however, as a small scale rental business and occasional gun wrangler, I'm more excited by the lower price and reduced legal hassles of these.

Any business will change over time, and new things need to be adapted to. Such is life. The fact that as many people still shoot on film as do, despite the multitude of valid digital options these days, shows that there will always be people with an aesthetic for the tangible (I noticed HBO's shooting Boardwalk Empire on film, for example).

This new model seems like it'd be even easier than the Jackal to build in to other shells, the way the Jackal is just a M92 shaped prop in a vaguely uzi-shaped shell. I'd be curious to see how easily this could be fit in to an MP5, MP7, Mac 10, or other such housing, at least well enough to suffice for wide shots or live theatre...
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Re: Maxsell's got BATF approval for front venting!

Post  Jaythebarbarian on Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:04 am

I bought one and did some testing. It handles pretty well, outside of some wierd stoppages during full-auto fire. I'm planning some more safety tests on it, since the ones I did on worst-case scenarios weren't extensive enough for my taste.

I'd use it on my own projects, but I'd consider it a "you only get to rent it if you hire one of our armorers" piece.

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Re: Maxsell's got BATF approval for front venting!

Post  Fight Designer on Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:17 pm

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Re: Maxsell's got BATF approval for front venting!

Post  Fight Designer on Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:42 pm

...and they now have dummy suppressors. What's strange is that they seem to be different for each model. Different threading? Same company, so why would it be? Anybody have any info?

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