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Post  Rick on Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:11 am

Does anyone know why RAP is no longer offering the RAP5 / MP5?
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Post  Fight Designer on Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:39 am

They aren't? Damn... been wanting to pick one up sometime, but haven't been ready to drop the $. I've seen 'em on ebay recently still...
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Re: RAP5

Post  Rick on Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:43 pm

Hey Kevin
That happens to be what I did. I'd recommend it.
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Post  Fight Designer on Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:49 pm

Which version did you get, for how much, and from whom? There's several versions floating around out there.
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Re: RAP5

Post  Rick on Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:38 pm

I got a fairly basic RAP5 (APS 11S) - it may be the LE version. It does not have the optional flexi-air system. I got it through packratunderground, an eBay seller. I was still able to get the optional airsoft and .177 BB ( Twisted Evil ) barrels through RAP.

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Post  Fight Designer on Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:55 pm

Yeah, I'd been eyeing those too- at $250 it's the best price I'd seen.

Currently chatting with Jim Dat from RAP4. They have about 15 units in stock right now, and are just still updating the website. Also asking him about how hard it'd be to mod one of the M4s into one of these:
http://www.colt.com/mil/SMG.asp

...or just to get a stick mag instead of a .223 mag into one, since the .43 casings look much more like 9mm brass than .223 brass.
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Post  Rick on Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:21 pm

It might be do-able since the 9mm upper only uses a mag well adapter to fit the clip. It would seem like the biggest reworking would be the clip itself. The shells could be made of a brass tubing with sufficient wall thickness to "sabot" the ammo or even left at .43 - I can't imagine anyone being able to tell the difference at full auto fire/ejection rates.

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Post  Rick on Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:18 pm

I checked today & they're listed again!

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Post  Fight Designer on Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:14 am

Yeah, but at list price. Now I'm kinda wishing I'd bought that one on ebay for $250...
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Re: RAP5

Post  ljerr2 on Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:22 am

One of the things I don't like about the RAP5 is that the mags are funny-looking. They become larger at the bottom and for some reason, this really bugs me.
I also don't like the fact that they kept firing after the mag was emptied, unlike the RAP4 METS. I guess if you're looking for use as a prop, however, this would be a good thing.

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Post  Fight Designer on Sat Mar 01, 2008 9:56 pm

At least the mags look better than those on the supposed MP5K blank fire 'Blow Crazy' model, if you follow the blank firing gun stuff!

I hadn't noticed that, but I haven't seen an RAP MP5 in person yet either, sadly.
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Post  ljerr2 on Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:31 pm

You are absolutely right. Those MP5K blank-firers were quite a disappointment. I was all worked-up wondering how I was going to come up with the money to buy a couple of those............until I saw them.............. yuck.

Anyway, it is tough to see the mag issue on the RAP5 on their website. I think it is purposely not shown. Look at some actual pics and you'll see what I mean. Outside of those two little issues, they are really cool guns. Once they get the MP5 to the "METS" level, I'll be buying a couple of them.

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Post  phobus on Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:07 am

I noticed they seem to be very hard to locate here in the UK too.
The main supplier one-commando did not list them when I wanted one , and whilst they seem to fall outside of the clutches of the VCR Bill , it is not legal to post them and so its collect only . This only affects NEW models apparantly . ( So fire off a few rds and its used - right !! Cool ) Laughing
Why they are exempt when cheap all plastic aegs are not is a total mystery to me but typical of these new laws.
Anyway I picked one of these up secondhand recently ( semi auto only - weird ) most UK models are select fire
stil its a very nice model and probably the best MP5 replica I have ever seen.

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Post  Fight Designer on Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:16 am

Thanks for the clear picture. Shows the magazine flare more clearly than the website photos do.

Anybody have or know of any video of one of these in operation? I've found plenty of the RAP4 M4 variants, but none of the MP5.
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Post  ljerr2 on Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:40 pm

Sorry, I don't have mine anymore or I would post a video for you. They fire very nicely, actually. The one shown in the pic by phobus is one of the types that allow a charge into a tiny reservoir in the handle or a separate disposable CO2 cartridge in the rear (if you use the fixed stock). I really liked mine - if it wasn't for that flare in the mag and the fact that it keeps firing when empty, I'd still have it. I might even have two!

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Re: RAP5

Post  Fight Designer on Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:40 pm

Went ahead and ordered one, although I went with the cheaper fixed-stock-only version (no option of gas in the grip).

Now if I can get one of those Frostbite silencers...

Anybody know if something like this would be compatible?






(ebay cheapies, costing about a 10th of the cost of a Surefire forend).

Or this?

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Re: RAP5

Post  Fight Designer on Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:15 pm

Got mine in, but haven't found anywhere in Seattle that can refill the cannister yet- I hadn't realized they used a unique valve on their CO2 tanks. Hopefully I can find someone here that's equipped for that, so I don't have to drop another wad of money on a converter...
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Post  Fight Designer on Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:36 pm

Just ordered yesterday, so I can't completely vouch for them until I have something in hand... but hey, at $5 for a magazine (that retails for $37 at RAP4.com) it's worth a try! Ordered a couple spare mags for my RAP5 (which I've yet to try, having not found a gas refill place that can handle them) and a few hundred alloy casings.
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(They also have some Airsoft stuff).

Now if only they had deals on those 3oz adapters and disposable CO2 tanks...
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Post  Fight Designer on Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:19 pm

Damn that was quick! Just got my box. Apparently some items are backordered, but still; an RAP5 mag and casings for a heckofa lot cheaper than retail. Gotta love that!
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Post  Fight Designer on Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:59 pm

More updates- got the cheapie flashlight forend and top rail off ebay, as pictured/described above. Both fit just fine on the RAP5. Looking pretty nice... now if only I can hunt down a place to fill up the CO2 and actually try the darn thing!
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Re: RAP5

Post  Fight Designer on Sat Apr 12, 2008 2:13 am

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Re: RAP5

Post  Fight Designer on Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:29 pm

Finally got a converter
http://rap4.com/paintball/os/portable-refill-p-272.html
and a standard 20oz CO2 cannister. Tried to fill the RAP cannister, and did, but then the cutoff valve on the adapter apparently doesn't work for the non-RAP style cannisters, because the remaining CO2 just sprayed all over.

At least now I can use the RAP marker, I thought... but no, damn thing doesn't work. CO2 just leaks right out as soon as you open the valve... frack!
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Post  Fight Designer on Wed May 21, 2008 2:24 pm

Okay, I feel a bit the idiot but want fair disclosure here- Just realized looking at it last night that there's no o-ring on the CO2 cannister, and there's supposed to be. Whoops.

So hopefully now I can get a new o-ring and have the damn thing work. I'll keep ya'll posted, but in the meantime, here's a picture of it on set (being used as a non-firing prop)

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Post  Fight Designer on Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:50 pm

After far too long, finally got some more CO2 in the thing, new O-rings, etc... and it works! About time!

Now I just need to find a better way to refill that CO2; using the connector thing I got from RAP4.com it doesn't close the valve the way it should, so when going from a larger CO2 cylinder into the proprietary RAP cylinder, the extra in the bigger one just sprays out all over the place as soon as I disconnect the smaller one.
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